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Conversation With Abolitionist David Batstone on New Media Activism


F
ive hundred years ago, religious activists set European culture on fire with new forms of media-driven activism. Later, this was called the Reformation. And, 200 years ago, abolitionists conducted a war of pamphlets and papers that rained down across Britain and the U.S. in a relentless campaign to end the African slave trade.
There’s a powerful connection between new media, spiritual change and social activism — and Dr. David Batstone has become a modern pioneer in these fields, leaving his post at the helm of Sojourners Magazine to devote himself entirely to combating modern slavery through the Not For Sale campaign. There are other groups trying to end modern slavery, but Batstone is interested especially in using new media to build — and fuel — a grassroots network of ordinary abolitionists. That means, he wants to reach folks like you and me who are eager to lend a hand, if someone will only show us a way to make a difference.
Be sure to click on the cover of Dr. Batstone’s book, “Not for Sale” — and catch our “Care-to-Read-More?” options at the end of this story.

HERE are highlights of our Conversation With Dr. David Batstone:

CRUMM: 27 million. That’s the number of men, women and children in slavery even as we speak. We see that number cited in many places, although the actual number may be even higher than that. Let’s start with that startling number: 27 million. Who counted?
BATSTONE: 27 million comes from Kevin Bales in a book he researched, “Disposable People.” He went country by country and looked at credible reports by governments and human rights organizations in each country. Then, he added up all the numbers.
That’s why it’s considered a conservative figure. It’s carefully documented. But I think most of us working against slavery can see that this is only the tip of the iceberg. I think it’s a much larger number. I was intrigued that Forbes magazine did a cover story in February, called “Child Labor: Why We Can’t Kick Our Addiction,” which is a good barometer among mainstream media. Forbes doesn’t go out on a limb, but they reported on the ubiquity of child labor — so common that products produced this way show up in places like Macy’s, Ikea, Home Depot and Lowe’s.
This is part of the bigger picture of slavery. I don’t know any child at age 12 who freely chooses to work every day laboring in a cotton field in India or producing products for these retailers. Often, we’re talking about situations where families sell their children to a steward in exchange for money and then that child is bonded for years to work in a rug mill or somewhere else. We use the number 27 million because it is commonly agreed upon. It’s a conservative number. But the larger number of 100 million, which includes forced child labor, is also reasonable.
CRUMM: We just recommended the “ABC Nightline” investigation on slavery in Haiti. That’s an eye-opening report in which we actually see the lives of real slaves. But, what’s the larger picture globally? Who are these 27 million slaves and where are they located?
BATSTONE: The biggest numbers are in India and China. But then beyond that what you have are pockets where slavery is very prolific. We really don’t even have a good lens into Middle East slavery yet, but certainly the people trade is very large in the Middle East. In Africa, you have slavery in the coca fields. There’s a lot of slavery associated with agriculture.
In Western countries, the highest numbers are in countries like the United States, Germany, Holland and Italy. There you have forced labor. Each of those countries have trafficking particularly in the commercial sex industry. The main source countries, the recruiting grounds for those slaves, are the republics of the former Soviet Union and then Cambodia, Thailand and southeast Asia. These tend to be places where someone takes control of the lives of vulnerable people and then sells these people across borders.

CRUMM: Describe some of the work you did before diving into the anti-slavery campaign.
BATSTONE: I’ve spent years studying the ways religious beliefs shape social values and political persuasions. I was the Executive Editor of Sojourners Magazine from 2001 to 2006.
CRUMM: Around the end of your time at Sojourners, you were commissioned to write the book, “Not For Sale” — in conjunction with the William Wilberforce anniversary and the release of the movie, “Amazing Grace.”
BATSTONE: Yes, my book, “Not For Sale,” was the official book for the movie’s release. Walden Films and HarperCollins timed the release of my book to coincide with the film.
CRUMM: So, the film was an important catalyst to the abolition movement, but it wasn’t entirely successful. The film got some mixed reviews. It did pretty well, but it was a small movie. So, how do you evaluate the impact?
BATSTONE: That’s a fascinating question. What impact did the Wilberforce movie have? I don’t know if people made the leap from the Wilberforce story of fighting against slavery in Britain centuries ago — to saying: Yeah, OK, and we also need to fight slavery today too. Many of us in this movement hoped that a lot of people would do just that -– but the climax of the Wilberforce film is that he ends slavery -– then there’s nothing like a flash on the screen that says: By the way slavery is still with us. The film ends and he has ended slavery.
CRUMM: But it did set you on a whole new track in life. You became one of the leading researchers on slavery. You founded a group that now is in the forefront of the anti-slavery movement around the world.
BATSTONE: Yes. I set out to write a book and, in the process of writing that book, I got more and more deeply embedded in this research. It’s one of the reasons I left Sojourners. The more I dug into the reality of people being bought and sold around the world today, the more I had to focus on this problem. I went to five continents and it struck me how few resources there are –- what a small response we have to a global crisis! At that stage, I decided I can’t just write a book; I’ve got to get involved myself.

CRUMM: So, when did you start Not for Sale?
BATSTONE: Not for Sale was founded in February 2007 at the time the book was coming out and the movie was being released.
CRUMM: How big is the group now?
BATSTONE: We have 40,000 members around the world. These are people who have signed up to get our free, weekly updates and action plans.
CRUMM: Is there a charge?
BATSTONE: No, it’s free.
CRUMM: Where are these 40,000?
BATSTONE: We’re global. I’d say 75 percent are Americans.

CRUMM: You’re very active. It seems as though every time I check Not for Sale, there’s something new unfolding. I’m curious about the headquarters for such a big operation. What does your world headquarters look like?
BATSTONE: (laughs) What does our world headquarters look like? Well, it’s really a hub for inspiring local actions against slavery. I’ll answer you that way. A lot of what we do is online. One of our most exciting new tools is: www.slaverymap.org It’s a web site where you can go and document trafficking that’s happening in your area. You can read what other people are mapping. You click on Oklahoma, for example, and you can see what kind of trafficking is happening there. This helps you to volunteer in groups in your area that are fighting slavery.
CRUMM: How do you make sure people aren’t maliciously attacking somebody who’s a personal enemy? How do you prevent malicious stuff?
BATSTONE: We build in screening. You have to register with an identifiable address so we can get back to you. Another screen we use is that we allow for someone to correct or amend or otherwise challenge an account. Once you publish it, someone can check it out. If someone comes back to us and says: Hey, this is patently false –- then we have an editor who goes over the new material every day and we retain ultimate editorial control. We’re balancing open-source principles with our editorial functions.
CRUMM: Are you mainly looking for people to post items on the map that they’re suspicious about –- or are you looking for people to post news items they’ve seen, say, in local newspapers or from local police blotters or court documents?
BATSTONE: We’re looking mainly for reports people are seeing out there. We’re interested in people passing along published reports, police reports and in many communities this is very important. We’re documenting cases that have happened and putting them all on the map so that people can see the widespread patterns of this problem. In San Francisco, we’ve got a team here actively documenting cases that have happened — so if someone stumbles onto a live case, then we can see if it’s part of an existing pattern.
CRUMM: What do you do if you uncover a new case?
BATSTONE: We call a national hot-line number and they’re able to let people know that there is an existing case to investigate. We direct calls to police. If victims call us and tell us they’re in need or afraid, we channel them to social-service providers.
We’re a network of information and resources, trying to raise awareness locally about what is happening. When you see more and more points on the map in your area — then you can tell your local police that this really matters to you. Through this kind of community activism, a higher priority can be put on investigating more cases.


CRUMM: So, what’s the range of slavery in this country? What are we talking about? People who are forced into the commercial sex industry? Servants locked away in suburban homes? Agricultural workers?
BATSTONE: The research base on existing cases –- a fairly representative sample — shows that about 50 percent of the bondage in this country revolves around the commercial sex industry. But, then, this surprises a lot of people: About 27 percent of slaves are in service often in up-scale neighborhoods. There was a recent case in Houston of a family that kept a young Nigerian girl for 12 years.
They went over to Nigeria with the explicit idea of finding a slave. They pretended she was their niece and for the next 12 years enslaved her in their home. It’s the most difficult kind of case to detect, because many neighbors just assumed that the family was helping some poor woman from Africa.
CRUMM: In the years I worked at the Detroit Free Press, I can remember several investigations into slavery –- a couple of them involving servants in up-scale homes. And what astounds people about this, when it comes to light, is that the so-called servants didn’t simply run away or go to the police. What we found at the Free Press was that the servants are terrified of the police –- because of what the families controlling them have done. The families have taken their travel documents. They’ve told their slaves that, if they whisper anything about their situation, the slave will wind up in far worse shape, right?
BATSTONE: Absolutely. That’s a common problem. But, you’re more informed than about 99 percent of the people we talk to about this problem for the first time. When people first hear about the problem of slavery, they ask us: How can there be slaves hidden here in the U.S.? Why don’t they just run away or go to the police? The answer is: They’re terrified of the police. Part of this is because of what they’ve been told and the situations that human traffickers have forced them into. And part of this is because there’s often official corruption involved somewhere in these cases.

CRUMM: Is there a kind of central clearing house -– a roundtable where the various abolitionist groups working together?
BATSTONE: Yes, we all collaborate and have a common organization in Washington D.C. called The Action Group where we can work together in trying to pass legislation. It’s our common ground.
CRUMM: So, how do you distinguish your group’s mission within the overall anti-slavery network?
BATSTONE: Each group has a little different approach. Part of my own goal is to help build a social movement where people of faith — across the board — can get enthusiastically involved.
CRUMM: It seems as though this movement is succeeding in raising awareness. In the past few weeks alone, we’ve seen PBS running a documentary on the legacy of the African slave trade. Then, this week, ABC’s Nightline weighed in with its expose on slavery in Haiti.
BATSTONE: These TV programs are important. They help us kick start new waves of public interest.

CRUMM: Tell us about your own upcoming film.
BATSTONE: It’s “Call and Response.” It’s going to be huge among young folks because some of today’s hottest musicians participated in the film — bands that my own kids listen to. It opens Sept. 5 in New York and 100 percent of the film’s profits will go to anti-slavery groups. I’m the associate producer.
CRUMM: You’re using a lot of new-media tools.
BATSTONE: That’s how to raise up a movement today. That’s really what we see as our niche -– trying to raise up a grassroots movement. So, we try to create as many media events as we can — always looking for ways to give people new ideas of “10 Things You Can Do.”
CRUMM: You’re crowdsourcing the movement.
BATSTONE: We use the phrase open-source activism, so our new Slavery Map online is an open-source information tool. We’re building a second one right now that we’ll call Free To Work. As we build this new project, we’re going to be looking for business researchers, journalists — anyone working globally around commerce — to help us identify every company supply chain we can trace. How do companies use labor? We want to trace everyone from IBM to clothing stores to the supply chains in small companies. For this one, we’re going to use another open-source platform where we’ll, again, have some screening. We’ll edit it and audit it — but we’ll use these new methods to generate the information.
CRUMM: There’s nothing to see yet?
BATSTONE: No, we’re designing it right now.
CRUMM: And, in this new project, will you award badges? Will corporate leaders be able to get a badge if they’ve been transparent and they’re documented as free from using forced labor?
BATSTONE: I love it! You’re thinking like we’re thinking. Yeah, you’re getting right to the heart of what we’re talking about. We need an implicit stick and then the carrot is that we also want to work with companies to increase awareness -– awareness that can help them in their own marketing. If you pledge not to use slave labor in your supply chain and you let us see where you get your resource, then we’ll help you tell people that you’re a Free-To-Work company.
Stories are showing up everywhere these days. Bloomberg just ran a story about an automaker using pig iron from Brazil -– in this case, iron from slave labor –- in cars we’re driving here in this country. We want companies to make sure they know about their whole supply chain. We want companies to be transparent about that and we’re going to help them see that it can help to build their reputation if they do this.
CRUMM: You’re talking about a big stick and a big carrot — the possibility of getting your badge.
BATSTONE: If we do the research work, then it’s an easy choice. Nobody is on the side of slavery, if we understand the issue and know what’s going on. Imagine a choice in tires. You buy this tire and you know it’s from rubber produced by slaves -– and you can buy this other tire and you know that this other company has been checked out. You know it’s Free To Work and your tire didn’t involve slave labor — Well, which tire are you going to buy?
CRUMM: OK, I can see where you’re headed with this. You’re a professor, an author — and you can hit the road and build this awareness into the next generation of business leaders, right?
BATSTONE: Right. This is viral. If people find out about this and tell other people, then it spreads. It becomes a part of the new way of doing business. When we launch Free To Work, I’m going to be going to business schools all around the country and get professors to assign this as a project to spend a semester learning everything you can about a company’s labor-supply chain. In a year then, or two years, when we have a critical mass of information, then we can go to the consumer public with a lot of what’s been produced.

CRUMM: So what’s your own business model? You know you never did answer that question about what your world headquarters looks like out there in San Francisco.
BATSTONE: This is an emerging form of advocacy. When I describe this to most people they just scratch their heads. They don’t get it. But we don’t actually even have a headquarters office, as such. I have five executive staff members. We work virtually. I tell people, we have 4,000 offices all across the United States –- and they’re all run for us by Starbucks.
CRUMM: And the idea is to focus on the message -– the voices you’re trying to get out there to people, right? In as many forms as possible through as many tools as possible.
BATSTONE: Yeah. That’s it. There are so many resources out there -– so many new tools to use, most of them online. We’ve just produced a new digital version of a Bible-study guide for faith communities to use in talking about the Not For Sale campaign. We’ve created this great tool and we’ll be delivering it to them digitally right there through the Web site. We want to reach people in as many ways as possible –- and the online world is providing us a whole new generation of tools to make that happen.

CARE TO READ MORE?

TAKE ACTION: Here’s the main portal into Batstone’s Not-For-Sale campaign. Look around in there. You’ll find lots of resources, news and tips for getting involved. You may not find it immediately, but there’s also a Downloads page, which includes a free Abolitionist’s Handbook.

PLAN TO CATCH THE FILM: Batstone and his activists are coming at us from all directions — including theater screens. Find out about “Call and Response,” a movie that will be making the rounds this autumn. No, it won’t be released wall-to-wall like “Iron Man” or “Batman.” You’ll have to make a point of going to see it. So, check out the site. The anti-slavery documentary includes Ashley Judd, Moby, Dr. Cornel West, Julia Ormond, Madeline Albright and Cold War Kids — in other words, a mix of creative people so diverse that it will expand your mind, whatever your age. (And, yes, this strange animated eye is part of the Web site’s many offerings.)

CHECK OUT YOUR STATE ON THE SLAVERY MAP: The latest wave of Batstone’s open-source activism is The Slavery Map in which activists are asked to help track incidents of slavery that show up in local news reports and police records. This innovative use of online maps and grassroots postings is similar to activism in the emerging Asian online communities — including strategies used by Isaac Mao, the godfather of Chinese blogger-activists.

WHERE DOES THIS ALL COME TOGETHER? “The Action Group” is a central coordinating network for the major abolitionist groups working across the U.S. In earlier ReadTheSpirit articles on the challenge of slavery, we’ve mentioned a couple of the major groups — but The Action Group pulls together an even broader coalition.

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK, PLEASE. Click on the “Comment” link below. Or, you can Email ReadTheSpirit Editor David Crumm directly. Or, visit us on Facebook, where the best meeting place at the moment is our new OurValues Facebook group.

206: WARNING: Looking into the face of a slave on ABC will transform your heart


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his is a serious warning.
    This is journalism that would make Edward R. Murrow proud.
    Tonight at 11:35 p.m. on ABC’s “Nightline,” a special report on modern slavery will transform your heart on this issue — and that’s potentially troubling, because you just might find that you’ve got to roll up your sleeves and get involved in modern abolition movements.
    If you’re interested in taking further steps — read our “Care-to-Read-More?” ideas below for helpful resources (including a link to a Tuesday Quiz on slavery).
    This is a network news program, and that means there’s rarely an opportunity to review such reports in advance. But, in this special case, ABC hurried a full copy of the video report to ReadTheSpirit, so we could review it for you.
    Watch it.
    Record it to use in small discussion groups in your congregation.
    I did not expect to find my own heart so deeply touched. And, clearly, reporter Dan Harris didn’t expect that his story would move in the direction it rapidly took.

    The report starts with a challenge by modern-day abolitionist E. Benjamin Skinner, the author of “A Crime So Monstrous,” to create a video report demonstrating the ease of buying slaves in the modern world. Dan Harris sets off from Manhattan at 7:10 a.m., boards a jet to Haiti and — within 10 hours — is posing as an American customer, looking for slaves. He quickly finds two different slave traders who eagerly come to his hotel, offering humans for sale. In one case, the trader offers to sell a child slave for only $150.
    That’s shocking stuff — especially when the waiters at Harris’ hotel overhear what he is doing. Instead of alerting police authorities, the waiters believe that he is, indeed, an American in the market for slaves and soon are vying to help him buy other humans — as long as they get a cut of the deal.

    Then, Harris’ story changes dramatically. He has proven Skinner’s claim that buying and selling slaves in the modern world is so easy that anyone can do it in less than a day.
    But then —
    Then — Harris begins to realize that slaves are everywhere in Haiti. In fact, he finds out that there are 300,000 slaves in Haiti. So, Harris drops his focus on the traders themselves — and sets out to find and interview slaves. As it turns out, this also is fairly easy.
    That’s when we meet Ti Soeur, the little girl pictured with this story. She’s 11 and her own Mom sent her into slavery, because this Mom lives in an impoverished rural area of Haiti with an abusive husband — and succumbed to a common myth in Haiti that sending children into the city will improve their lives. On the contrary, Ti Soeur immediately became a slave, cooking and cleaning for a family who beat her and prevented her from going to school.
    Slavery is so common in Haiti that, during the ABC report, Ti Soeur’s owner proudly talks with Harris on camera. She claims Ti Soeur’s life has been improved under slavery. And we might actually buy this argument until Harris and an investigator assisting him finally examine Ti Soeur’s arms and uncover evidence of the whippings with an electrical cord that the owner uses to keep the girl under her control.
    There’s a lot more — quite a heart-wrenching drama unfolds in the 20-minute documentary report — but it’s meeting Ti Soeur, her owner and her family that will transform your understanding of slavery. This isn’t a Hollywood actress playing a slave in a historical drama from 150 years ago. This is now. This is a little girl scarred for life by slavery — who lives just a short distance from U.S. shores.
    Watch it.
    But heed our warning: You won’t be the same after you see it.


CARE TO READ MORE?

    QUIZ YOUR GROUP: Earlier, we published a Tuesday Quiz on slavery. It’s a great discussion-starter for small groups. Feel free to print it out and share it with members of your group or class.
    JOIN MODERN ABOLITIONISTS: We also provided — in that same Tuesday story — links to two of the biggest abolition groups working from the U.S. today.
    ABC OFFERS TIPS, TOO: Dan Harris himself provides links to anti-slavery groups, including some with specific interest in Haiti.
    COME BACK ON WEDNESDAY TO MEET A TOP ABOLITIONIST: Our Conversation With Dr. David Batstone on Wednesday will open your eyes to the many ways that ordinary Americans can get involved in the abolition movement. Formerly the head of Sojourners Magazine, Batstone now is devoting himself to building one of the major grassroots organizations that is freeing slaves now.

NOTE ON ABC SHOWTIMES: We are a global Web site. Outside the U.S., you’ll need to check ABC’s Web site for more on Nightline’s schedule where you live. Within the U.S., the 11:35 p.m. showtime is the same in all American time zones.

PHOTO CAPTIONS: Thanks to ABC for these photos from the Nightline report. At top, we see Dan Harris, at right, interviewing Ti Soeur. Next, Ti Soeur stands beside her slave owner, as her owner talks with Harris. Next, Ti Soeur’s scars from whippings with an electrical cord are visible on her forearms. Finally, in the fourth photo, she is briefly reunited with her mother.

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK, PLEASE. Click on the “Comment” link below. Or, you can Email ReadTheSpirit Editor David Crumm directly. Or, visit us on Facebook, where the best meeting place at the moment is our new OurValues Facebook group.

205: News of Jesus-era Slogans Raises Question: What Slogans Will Define Us?


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ime and language work differently in the realm of faith. An excellent example of this truth landed on the front page of the New York Times on Sunday in a story by Ethan Bronner, headlined: “Ancient Tablet Ignites Debate On Messiah and Resurrection.”

    How do time and language work differently here?
    Well, consider …
    The Times story appears to be fast-breaking news about a biblical discovery — although it turns out that news of this 2,000-year-old stone tablet actually broke among scholars more than a year ago. (Of course, a year can be fast among biblical scholars.)
    The story also breathlessly reports that key messiah-like phrases are revealed in the stone’s inscription that will be “shocking” to Christians. These little slogans include phrases like “prince of princes” and a reference to resurrection “in three days” — although the truth is that sacred inscriptions from 2,000 years ago are now a rich stream in biblical scholarship. (For the most part, explorations of these ancient inscriptions are fascinating to Christian Bible-study groups and there are so many inscriptions emerging that any single “discovery” is unlikely to become a golden key into the past.)
    The story also claims that the inscription on this stone already is igniting a debate over messianic claims about Jesus — although the truth is that we’re talking here about a fairly polite discussion. (At this point, even evangelicals aren’t rattled by such “discoveries” — especially since so many supposedly “shocking” discoveries have been unearthed in recent years and so far no one’s church has imploded.)
    It isn’t until the second page of the long Times story that Mr. Bronner even admits that the stone hasn’t really been “found.” It wasn’t missing. For the past decade, it has been sitting around a Swiss family’s home as a sort of expensive souvenir of the Holy Land. It has surfaced in the literature of biblical scholars mainly because a couple of experts in ancient Hebrew finally heard about the stone and published a translation of the inscription more than a year ago. (Despite the Times’ suggestive headline, Christianity seems to have weathered the storm quite nicely.)

    So, should this story have been so prominently displayed on the front page of the U.S.’s most important newspaper?
    Yes, I think so.
    Here’s what’s at issue as scholars continue to study the stone and its text: The inscription may turn out to date from the year 4 BCE (or, BC, Before the Common Era). It may have been written after the death of a Jewish rebel leader named Simon, who was regarded as a messianic figure by his followers — but was killed by Roman soldiers. In interpreting his death, Simon’s followers may have written this text to keep his messianic story alive — predicting that he would return to life.
    In other words, this inscription may be further evidence of the eruption of messianic and apocalyptic hopes in that corner of the Roman-dominated world 2,000 years ago. As Jesus’ followers came along, some decades later, this story of Simon was one more model of the kind of faith that people placed in Jesus.
    That alone makes this an interesting chapter in the swelling volumes of biblical literature. Whether you’re Jewish, Christian or Muslim — all of us share an interest in the figure of Jesus (whether he was rabbi, savior or prophet) — and I think you’ll probably agree that this is an intriguing story.
    Of course, this recently translated inscription isn’t exactly like accounts of Jesus’ life and death. Among other things, Simon was a warrior who took up arms against Rome and the inscription says his resurrection will be like that of Elijah — riding triumphantly into the heavens in a chariot.
    And, while “Chariots of Fire” is a movie that’s quite popular with evangelicals, most Christians don’t envision Jesus as a sword-wielding warrior streaking across the sky like a flaming version of Charleton Heston.

    HOWEVER — if you start rolling this news story around in your mind — I think most of us wind up thinking about the kinds of sacred slogans we all use in our religious lives these days. And I hope it prompts us to ask: So, what slogans will define us, our faith and our era in the future?
    I’m talking about centuries from now, when a lovable little robot like “Wall.E” is cleaning up the artifacts of our civilization — and reads the inscriptions on our Starbucks cups, or picks up a sabbath bulletin from one of our congregations, or plays recordings of some of our inspirational songs or our preaching these days?

    HERE’S ONE SUGGESTION: Check out Dr. Wayne Baker’s challenge to readers today over on the OurValues landing page. He’s asking about symbols and slogans on our license plates — the same kind of question we’re raising here. What symbols should define us? And which symbols are dangerous — or can be misunderstood? (REMEMBER: Wayne’s provocative questions are great for use in small groups. So, check out his five pieces Monday-through-Friday this week at OurValues — and you may find yourself with the discussion-starter you need for next weekend’s small group!)

    CARE TO READ MORE? We’ve gathered the major resources you need to explore this ancient-inscription story further:

    THE TIMES STORY: Here’s a link to the Times story about the stone inscription, although you may have to complete a free Web-site-registration to view the article, if you haven’t visited the Times’ site in the past.
    BACKGROUND FROM A SCHOLAR: In April 2007, the online edition of Haaretz (a well-known newspaper in Israel) published an early “take” on the newly translated inscription by Dr. Israel Knohl, a professor of biblical studies at Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Shalom Hartman Institute. This detailed article from 2007, which is still online, and a few more comments Knohl made in an interview with the Times reporter appear to be the main evidence that this inscription holds the power to “ignite debate.”
    THE LATEST SCHOLARLY WORD: You can visit the Journal of Religion to get your own copy of Knohl’s latest article on the inscription, published in April 2008. If you’re not a subscriber, a download of the article in PDF format costs $10. I’ve read the journal article and can tell you this: It will be helpful to pastors, teachers and students who want to see a little more of the Hebrew at issue and read Knohl’s in-depth analysis. But, frankly, for most readers this April 2008 article is essentially a journal-style version of what Knohl already said online for Haaretz in the 2007 piece — which is free.
    CHARIOTS OF FIRE: Concerning “Chariots of Fire” and Elijah’s ascent into Heaven, which Dr. Knohl talks about in relation to the new inscription, check out 2 Kings 2:11 — or, by sheer coincidence, we just mentioned the popular movie of the same title in our Friday story about “Rome 1960: The Olympics that Changed the World.
    GREAT BOOKS FOR SMALL GROUPS: Two very popular Bible scholars who talk a lot about the importance of ancient inscriptions are John Dominic Crossan and Marcus Borg. We’ve got links to some of their best books like Crossan’s “God & Empire.” (and, if you care to purchase copies of their books through our Amazon store, you’re also helping to support ReadTheSpirit).

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK, PLEASE. Click on the “Comment” link below. Jump over to the new OurValues landing page and join in that vigorous discussion. Or you can always Email ReadTheSpirit Editor David Crumm directly. (We’re planning a reader-feedback day, later this week, so it’s a good time to send us that idea, reflection or comment you’ve been meaning to finish.)

COME BACK TOMORROW and Wednesday for timely news on a network-TV special report involving modern slavery — and an in-depth interview with David Batstone, one of the world’s leading anti-slavery activists. Dr. Batstone formerly ran Sojourners Magazine and his Not-for-Sale educational materials already have been used in countless congregations nationwide.

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Americans, passing through July 4 means that we’re in the second half
of summer now. Millions plan to travel, despite sky-rocketing gas
prices — many of us on faith-related journeys. Tell us about a spiritual journey you’re taking.

On Wednesday, Baha’is mark the Martyrdom of the Bab.

 

Since the pope now bears his name, more Catholics may want to explore the life of St. Benedict, a famous organizer of monastic life whose feast day falls on Friday.

 

This coming weekend, many Buddhists especially in China and Japan will observe Ullambana, sometimes described as an “all souls day.” In Japan, it’s called Bon or Obon. (Dates of regional observances vary. The photo above is from last year’s festival.)

QUESTION YOU MAY HEAR THIS WEEK:

“Where can I roll up my sleeves and make a difference?”

Countless Americans
pack their faith along with their luggage each summer — traveling on
mission trips, pilgrimages or simply including spiritual reflections
along their way. Some stay close to home and organize summer programs
for kids.

One way you can make a difference this summer is in the grassroots movement to combat slavery. We’ve already reported on one major TV documentary on slavery.
This week, there’s a second major examination of slavery — this time a
report on modern slavery on ABC Nightline Tuesday night. On Tuesday
morning, we’ll publish a review of the TV program — and, on Wednesday,
our Conversation with David Batstone is a chance to meet one of the
most innovative of the modern abolitionsts.

Of course, we’d also love to have you roll up your sleeves and visit www.OurValues.org
along with Dr. Wayne Baker of the University of Michigan’s prestigious
Institute for Social Research. It’s true — you can make a difference
by helping Dr. Baker with his research.

 

THIS WEEK, PEOPLE WILL TALK ABOUT:

 

News about the world of the Bible

that made the NYTimes front page!

If July 4 weekend travels kept you from checking out the Sunday New York Times, then you’ll want to read our overview today of the news about a 2,000-year-old stone slab with an inscription that may relate to Jesus’ life and death.
We know that many of our readers will have questions about this Times
article. So, today’s ReadTheSpirit story provides context — and links
to everything else you’ll want to know related to this intriguing stone
inscription.

Whether You’re Jewish — or Not —

You’ll Want This Study of Younger Singles

Anyone who is
familiar with serious research into American religious life knows that
if Steven M. Cohen’s name is on the cover of a report — it’s probably
a report on Jewish life and it’s certainly worth reading, whether
you’re Jewish or not.

Cohen has done it
again with a study of single, Jewish adults aged 25 to 39, a segment of
the population that he and his research colleagues regard as “swing
voters” who will determine the future of the Jewish community in
America.

The
report just became available this past week in PDF format. And, as
usual, Cohen reaches out to draw parallels to the larger religious
landscape.

Here’s
the headline from this report: Contrary to myths about young adults not
caring about religious affiliation — these Jewish adults
overwhelmingly identify themselves with Judaism. The problem is:
American religious life (Jewish and Christian as well) is geared toward
the dwindling portion of nuclear families in our population. This is
not a world that feels comfortable to single younger adults.

If
properly understood, Cohen’s report is a pointed challenge to mainline
Jewish and non-Jewish religious leaders who continue to structure their
communities around Mom, Pop and the kids.

 

If You’ve Never Heard of a Quaker Pagan,

Then You Should Meet One Here …

A special thanks to Dr. Wayne Baker, who is producing the daily stories and questions over at www.OurValues.org
— for pointing out to me that there are, indeed, a small but growing
number of Quaker Pagans in the U.S. Stay tuned to Wayne’s Web site this
week, where you’ll read more about them in an upcoming story.

However, to give you
an advance peek at this group, here is an example of the kind of
interesting online writing you’ll find from this little spiritual
movement. Check out: http://quakerpagan.blogspot.com/


Hot Read: Foreign Policy

Putting Olympic Myths into Perspective

Grab the July-August
2008 Foreign Policy magazine: the one with “Asia’s New Miracle” on the
front cover. Here’s why we’re calling it this week’s “Hot Read” — John
Hoberman’s “Think Again: The Olympics.” I won’t steal Hoberman’s
thunder by listing his seven myths about the Olympics, but I will share
one example: “The Olympics Promote Human Rights.” Quite the contrary,
Hoberman reports: “Olympic diplomacy has always been rooted in a
doublespeak that exploits the world’s sentimental attachment to the
spirit of the games.”

Overall, Hoberman’s
“Think Again” piece slams the Olympics a little too harshly, I think,
but it is a sobering dose of historical balance in the gung-ho American
anticipation of the games.

No question, there’s a dark underside to the games that more of us should consider in the midst of the televised glee.

(Another great
reason to buy this issue of FP: It includes the 2008 Foreign Policy
Failed States Index, an annual “must read” for people who care about
the health of our world.)

NEW ONLINE:

More news from China —

Pre-Olympic Religious Crackdowns

Have you
checked out online broadcasting? Vibrant new formats are blossoming
everywhere — and we are especially interested in reports on
tough-to-cover subjects related to spirituality and culture.

In last
week’s Planner, we highlighted a Wall Street Journal report by Andy
Jordan on efforts to save traditional Chinese neighborhoods.

This
week, mark your calendars for 5 PM (Eastern Time in the U.S.) on July
18 for a special report on religious persecution in China related to
the looming Olympic games. The reporter is Gary Baumgarten, who had a
long career with CBS and CNN, but now reports online. Check out his
Blog: The Gary Baumgarten Report.
On the 18th, you can click on the link from his site to hear this
report concerning China. Or, check out his work anytime before that.

This Week Inside ReadTheSpirit


We’re going to be exploring …

TODAY (Monday), we’re helping you make sense of the somewhat puzzling New York Times front-page story on Sunday
about a 2,000-year-old stone inscription that could be related to
Jesus’ life and death. In putting that story into a broader context,
we’ve also got cool links to “read more” about the significance of this
inscription.

Tuesday: We’ll share with you news about an ABC special report on modern slavery.

Wednesday:
We’ll introduce you to Dr. David Batstone, currently one of the world’s
leading abolitionists. Batstone is a scholar from California who once
ran Sojourners Magazine but found his life transformed by researching the book, “Not for Sale.”
Now, he’s trying to build a grassroots movement around the world using
innovative new-media strategies. You’ll find inspiring news and some
intriguing ideas in this story.

Thursday: You’ll meet an old friend setting off in fresh directions inspired by new media. She’s Lynne Schreiber, who we last heard from during Passover.

Friday: We’re planning a special reader-feedback page.

 

Our Latest Stories

204: Here are Two — a Film and a Book — for some Great Summertime Reflections


H
appy Fourth of July to our American readers!

   Hey, the summer’s half over for millions of Americans — so we’ll send you into the holiday weekend with two great recommendations — a movie and a book.

FIRST: THE CHALLENGE OF “HANCOCK”
   Mainly, “Hancock” is a puzzle because I don’t want to reveal the plot twist that slaps moviegoers halfway through Hollywood’s latest super-hero offering of Summer ’08.
   Perhaps I shouldn’t be so careful. This cinematic “secret” is a lot like the plot twist in “The Sixth Sense” in which countless people found out about the movie’s narrative trick within days of its opening.
   But “Hancock” is a different kind of super-hero, summertime-cinema, big-budget-blockbuster, special-effects extravaganza. To be sure, all of those adjectives I just stacked up describe the movie accurately. But there’s more here in the underlying spiritual messages this movie is trying to convey.
   First of all, we’re stepping into the Church of Will Smith here. Increasingly, Will Smith plays Will Smith –- sort of like Humphrey Bogart eventually became just Bogey, John Wayne eventually played the Duke and Tom Hanks now ranks at the top of some celebrity-authority scales because he is nearly always true-hearted Tom Hanks.
   We’ve now seen enough of Will Smith, I think, that there are some intriguing discussions small groups can have about what spiritual messages are preached in the Church of Will Smith.

   
But, before this movie’s over, “Hancock” tries to stretch its narrative like Silly Putty -– in a whole bunch of directions. Lots of questions are raised: Are super-heroes really our gods? And do gods want to be mortal? And does becoming mortal –- well, let’s just say, does it tend toward tragically fatal outcomes? (And, trust me — I’m still not revealing anything.)
   There’s also another intriguing point that our friends the Brussats, the veteran critics at Spirituality and Practice, have been raising this summer about the current crop of movies: It’s the question of duality. The Brussats argue that the flaw in super-hero movies is that they encourage a dangerous spiritual view of the world as simply Good vs. Evil. This can turn into bad old Cold War duality. This can erode our openness to diversity, leading us to suspect that people who are different may actually be evil –- because there are only two baskets left in the world: heroes and villains.
   I’m not sure I buy that argument. Also, I’m not sure I buy the spiritual puzzles that “Hancock” tries to stretch in so many directions.
   But, hey, this is what’s so great about ReadTheSpirit: Tell us what you think! (And, while you’re at it — if you’re just catching up with “Wall.E” this weekend — we’d also like to get more comments on this lovable little guy who adores old musicals.)
   We’re going to be devoting a couple of days in the next two weeks to Reader Comments. This is a terrific time to add your comment by clicking on the link below. Or you can Email ReadTheSpirit Editor David Crumm directly. Either way, you can get into the mix of reader responses.

SECOND: HOW ROME CHANGED THE WORLD IN 1960


   
No, this isn’t a review of a book about the Vatican. This is a review of a brand-new book released just this week about the Rome Olympics in 1960.
   The world is changing so fast right now that most of us can barely keep up with the daily news that affects our lives, jobs and future. So, it’s a rare and wonderful treat when a book comes along that carries us back to a time and place when the world changed more slowly –- to show us one of those events that truly did change our global culture. When such books come along, they’re usually about wars -– but not this new gem by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer David Maraniss.
   Given my own background as a journalist, I’ll confess that I was puzzled by Maraniss’ decision in selecting “Rome 1960” for a thick new book of nearly 500 pages (that’s counting all the extras at the end). As I picked up the book, I kept asking myself: Why did he call this particular meet: “The Olympics that Changed the World”?
   As a specialist in religion and culture, I’ve immersed myself in histories of other Olympics: the 1924 “Chariots of Fire” Olympics, the 1936 Nazi-dominated Olympics, the 1972 Olympics when terrorists killed 11 Israeli athletes –- and even the 1964 Tokyo Olympics, which became a milestone in global culture in part because of Kon Ichikawa’s historic documentary film.

   Now, having read Maraniss’ new book, I’ve got to agree: Rome in 1960 ranks right up there as a milestone in world culture — and, I would argue, in spiritual history as well.
   I missed the significance, because I had not considered the roles of the major players who all collided in Rome that year –- including the now-infamous anti-Semite and pro-Nazi American czar of the Olympics movement: Avery Brundage. If you don’t find yourself drawn to “sports” -– but you are fascinated by 20th-Century history, especially the 1930s, Fascism and the Holocaust –- this is a “must read” book for you. Think of it as a “sequel” to books about the controversial Nazi Olympics in which Hitler, Goebbels and Riefenstahl essentially pulled a fast one on Brundage in convincing him to help them celebrate their glorious new Reich.
   As a journalist, I’m a longtime follower of new research into that earlier era –- and Maraniss picks up the Brundage story in 1960 and pretty much nails the man and his many levels of hypocrisy — as he lets us see how this antique figure collided with many of the realities of later-20th-Century culture. Among the key details Maraniss adds to our understanding of Brundage are personal jottings he made during the Rome Olympics that, among other things, complained of the emergence of “Jews … demanding restitution for everything lost and lot more.” (Of course, Brundage somehow managed to continue at the helm through 1972 in Munich, where controversy continued to surround his decisions.)

   What’s great about this new book is that everything I’ve said about the Brundage sub-plot is just one of many compelling storylines that Maraniss explores in these 500 pages. Among other things: These were the Olympics in which Cassius Clay exploded onto the global stage, later to transform himself into Muhammad Ali. These were the games of Wilma Rudolph. These were the games in which commercial interests were knocking down old-school barriers that claimed to be preserving an “amateur” tradition. Doping became an issue at Rome. Two Chinas and two Germanys jostled at these games.
   This is summer reading at its best. The next Olympic games are looming. The world is no longer merely tilting on its axis. No, global culture now is spinning at a topsy-turvy rate, it seems.
   Pick up “Rome 1960.” If you’re like me, you won’t stop until you’ve read the whole thing – and you’ll come away understanding just a little more about how we all got to this place we’re standing in this strange new century.

NOTES: No, there’s no typo in the Brundage quote. He jotted “and lot more.” And, yes, that’s Cassius Clay receiving the gold medal in Rome. At his side is silver-medalist Zbigniew Pietrzykowski of Poland. (The No. 3 slot was a tie that year.)

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK. Click below — or Email us.

203: In a world of depressing news — why are we so “up-beat” all the time?


T
wo comments prompted today’s reflection.

   THE FIRST: A Blogger who visited our popular new landing page, www.OurValues.org, noted later on his own Web site that he thought we used perhaps too much praise to introduce Dr. Wayne Baker on our site — and, he said he was suspicious that the comments accumulating on the site were somehow too well written and on point to be the notes of “ordinary Americans.” There should be more “junk” in OurValues, he said, because that’s what usually accumulates when Americans are allowed to comment on a site.
   Finally, he concluded about OurValues, “I guess I haven’t figured out exactly what bothers me about the site but something does.” (I won’t put him on the spot by using his name here, because it looks like he’s also planning to be a good sport about this and will continue to visit OurValues.)
   THE SECOND: Wednesday morning over breakfast with a handful of local readers, one man pointed at the morning newspaper with a front-page headline: “Deepening Cycle of Job Loss Seen Lasting into ’09.” He shook his head and asked me, “How can you guys remain so cheerful? The economy’s tanking; we’re in an endless war — don’t you just want to go out there and shout at people sometimes? There are days when I feel like saying, ‘@#!$%@,’ then going back to bed! Don’t you?”

   These notes of puzzlement about our ReadTheSpirit project aren’t isolated.
   We don’t use obscenity here — but gosh darn it all! — we are relentlessly up beat around here!
   It’s true. We spread praise around generously here. We give 4 or 5 stars to most of the books and films we recommend here and on the Amazon Web site. We have praised Dr. Baker — but, if you look back over our hundreds of ReadTheSpirit stories — we praise nearly everyone who visits our site for an interview or who we’ve invited to publish a guest column here. We have chosen these men and women to be a part of this online community and we’re — gosh darn — proud of them.

Why do we do it this way?
   Well, as your Editor, I’ve spent 30-plus years in journalism — in tough newsrooms at four newspapers. And our generosity with praise at ReadTheSpirit certainly does not reflect a lack of critical judgment.
   Here’s the reality: There are lots of silly — and often downright stupid and offensive — books and films released each month. We ignore them. You can find other folks slamming them online, if you really care to look.
   We see our discerning, up-beat style here as a form of hospitality and encouragement in a world painfully lacking in those values.
   In a world where Borders books is openly pleading for another company to come buy the chain before it completely fails …
   In a world where major newspapers that used to be the pillars of our communities are imploding and have stopped covering many subjects that are close to our hearts and minds …
   In a world where truly helpful “voices” are increasingly harder to find out there …
   … we are here every day helping you find the very best in spiritual ideas — most of them in books and films that you can explore yourself and discuss with others. That’s why we focus mainly on giving you the best — the 4- and 5-star choices.
   Also, our online experiment is all about helping people make spiritual connections and build communities. I’ve developed the principles we’re following here through years of writing award-winning spiritual columns for the Detroit Free Press — plus, in an ambitious experiment I led in creating a diverse online community of spiritual voices in the summer of 2007 for Wired Magazine and New York University School of Journalism.

   To be fair to the Blogger who commented on OurValues: He is right about the levels of “junk” online, unfortunately.
    He pointed out that many of the wide-open forums online these days are full of angry rants that are more about venting than expressing a constructive argument. He pointed to an AOL news forum in which raving comments were filled with such fury that the writers seem to have slammed down their Cap-Lock keys and SCREAMED at each other. It looked a lot like what my weary friend was suggesting at breakfast Wednesday morning.
   There is, indeed, a whole lot to be anxious about.
   In Wednesday’s New York Times alone, stories proclaimed that the auto industry is in terrible shape — that it’s now been revealed that U.S. military interrogators at Guantanamo in 2002 modeled their torture techniques on a ruthless torture regimen from the Communist Chinese — and that more U.S. men and women serving in Afghanistan are dying due to the Taliban’s resurgence.

   And, in the midst of all of that, many of our urban oases are closing up shop.
   This doesn’t rank with the moral tragedies of torture and death in battle — but another headline in the Times declared: “Starbucks Announces It Will Close 600 Stores.” Due to “a harsher economic climate,” Starbucks is going to lay off 12,000 employees, “the most in its history.”
   In the midst of turbulent global change, that’s 600 fewer urban refuges. (If you think I’m making light of this, click on the book cover of “Quoting God” to read more.)

   So, yes, dear readers — we’re relentlessly up beat.
   All of us are going to find it harder to find our favorite morning cup of Venti-With-Room. Our urban oases are going to become fewer and farther from our doorsteps.
   At least you know we’re here with a friendly word to help you start your day.
   And, sorry — we don’t serve coffee, yet.

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK, PLEASE?
   Readers are doing that vigorously over on the OurValues landing page. Here at ReadTheSpirit, readers usually prefer to Email Editor David Crumm directly — and you’re still welcome to do that. Or, you can click on the “Comment” link below.

COME BACK on FRIDAY for two reviews of — yes, great new choices for reflecting on our world. We also are planning to publish another reader-comments page soon, so it’s a great time to finish that note you’ve been meaning to send us. Remember, the holiday weekend is coming!

202: Conversation With Dr. Wayne Baker, the Researcher Behind OurValues.org


M
any of you jumped immediately into the new www.OurValues.org project, rolled up your sleeves and got involved. Thank you! You’re already offering comments, taking the Quick Poll and signing up for the in-depth survey.
   We’re thrilled to see that -– because you really are making a difference by helping Dr. Wayne Baker and the team of researchers at the University of Michigan learn more about American values.
   TODAY, we’re going to give you a chance to hear from Dr. Baker about the importance of this project -– and the unusual nature of American values in the global community. Dr. Baker launched OurValues this week after years of studying these issues in the U.S. and in cultures around the world.
   So he knows a lot about this subject already.
   Some readers have told us that they’re thinking of using OurValues materials as “discussion starters” in small groups. Tuesday’s Quiz on values and today’s interview with Dr. Baker are great resources to share with groups to help spark discussion. Dr. Baker’s book also is available (just click on the cover).


Here are highlights of our Conversation With Dr. Baker:

   DAVID: We’re sitting down to talk today at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, your home base here in Ann Arbor. And, we’ve already been working for quite a while on this OurValues launch. How are you feeling about this, so far?
   WAYNE: Great. This is very helpful already. One way this already has been useful to me in my research is that it gets me thinking every day about: What are the values issues that people are encountering in the various news stories that we see every day? And, what are the complications we’re facing when values conflict around news events?
   DAVID: So, you’re watching the world more closely in terms of how ordinary men and women experience our changing culture, right?
   WAYNE: I’m watching the news as people experience it in a new way. When I go online, I’ve got Google as my homepage now, because I do so much stuff through Google –- it’s where I start.
   DAVID: Me, too. I’ve got a customized Google page as my starting point going out into the world.
   WAYNE: I have Google customized for headlines about religion and politics and lots of other topics. It’s a great way to scan what’s happening. I look at the new headlines coming out all the time –- and I also look at publications that only come out once a month. So much is happening in the world –- so many things are developing.
   As people post comments on the OurValues site -– their comments themselves become raw data as we think about how people respond to questions about values. Then, there also are the surveys we’re developing on the site. This has opened my eyes to how much information people can help us gather here –- even beyond the larger survey that people can sign up to participate in. I’m realizing that there’s the potential here for people to help us in many ways.

   DAVID: I think you’re absolutely right. I’ve been the editor on your first series of posts. Looking ahead, I’ve seen, now, about two weeks of articles you plan to publish –- and the kinds of questions you’ll be asking people. I like the fact that, rather than just asking basic questions about values and political choices -– you’re giving people all kinds of different doorways into thinking about their values. You’re asking them about everything from Hillary Clinton’s generation –- the values shared by people of her age group –- to things like poetry. What can poetry teach us about values?
   I like it that for the July 4 weekend, you plan to ask Americans about the colors of our country. We all know it’s a red-white-and-blue holiday -– but what other colors that represent America? Green? Or, the political colors? Other colors? I think this really is a refreshing way to get people talking about our close-to-the-heart values.
   I can’t wait to see what comments we see to your questions about unusual topics like poetry –- or colors.
   WAYNE: And I’m going to be watching closely, too, for which issues really set people off –- and which issues really are non-starters for people. This is important data, too –- helping us to get a better sense of which issues really are causing a lot of concern for people. Some issues we’ll raise will turn out to be like –- vanilla. Nothing really to say about them. Others, I think, will spark some really strong reactions.
   Seeing the levels and nature of people’s reactions is part of the process -– part of what we’re looking at here.

   DAVID: Let’s talk for a moment about the basic issue behind this project: Helping researchers –- and, really, helping all of us, including our country’s leaders –- understand these values that are at the core of our lives.
   On the face of it, this seems like such a simple question, right? These are the issues that millions of men and women agree are extremely important to them. So, why is the word “values” such a complicated term these days? Why is it so difficult to talk about values in public? How did this get so confusing in the first place?
   WAYNE: There are a couple of things that became very complicated for people. One is that the word “values” and the phrase “values voters” became associated specifically with conservative values and conservative political causes. My position is that nobody has a monopoly on values -– and everyone has values, whether you’re ultra-conservative, ultra-liberal, somewhere in the middle. You’ve got values no matter what your religion is –- or even if religion is not an important part of your life. If you’re secular, you have values as well. Part of the problem is this knee-jerk reaction that’s now associated with the word “values.” So often, you hear the word and the first thing you think of is –- what? — conservative voters.
   It is interesting that conservatives seem to be able to talk more freely about their values than liberals can –- even though liberals have values as well. That’s part of the difficulty. The whole discussion seems to be usurped by a particular political ideology, when really we all have something to say in this discussion. We all have values.
   Another problem is that it is just difficult for all human beings to talk about our values –- because values operate many times at a sub-conscious level.

   DAVID: You’re talking about important parts of our live that, over many years, we pick up –- pick up, where would you say?
   WAYNE: Usually, people pick up values not because their parents hammered at them about something -– but because they observed how their parents behaved and how they interacted with other people. People infer values from what they see in their families. People are socialized into their values often in ways that they really are unable to describe in words. So, finding out about the most important values in our lives often involves asking questions on other levels about our behavior or attitudes –- and then trying to infer what underlying values led to those choices.

   DAVID: Is this basic difficulty in talking about values associated with a particular period in American life? I’m asking this because we’ve written a lot about different periods in American life. A few weeks ago, we ran some verses from Woody Guthrie’s famous song, “This Land Was Made for You and Me” -– and, even though most people don’t recall the final verse of that song, the fact is that the final verse is a very bitter critique on American values.
   So, back as early as the Depression, you had people arguing about what today we would call values. Then, in the ‘40s and ‘50s, there was a whole different shape to the discussion, but a lot of the really important cultural waves that rolled through those decades were all about how we define American values.
   Do we say we’ve always been concerned with our values? Or, is this desire to talk about our values associated with a particular period in our history?
   WAYNE: I think it’s a perennial issue and debates about values have always been there in American life. If you go back to the early years of our nation, you can look at how the Puritans responded to the Quakers, for example. There wasn’t a whole lot of religious tolerance back then. Different Protestant groups clashed throughout our early history. Then, later, when Catholics came over in significant numbers, those clashes over religious values escalated to a whole new level.
   So, I think questions about values have always been there –- but the conversation ebbs and flows according to what’s happening in the world at any given time. The values debates during the Civil War focused on some different issues than we’re facing today.
   I talk about this in my book, “America’s Crisis of Values,” because it’s quite interesting. There’s always a base-line debate going on over our values. But there’s something unique about the American system when it comes to values.

   DAVID: I’m glad you’re touching on this point. Your book is dense with data from the U.S. and around the world and you talk about a whole range of issues -– but I keep returning to this central point you make in the book: You believe there is a unique nature to the values debate within American culture.
   WAYNE: Yes. There is something unique about America as a cultural system. Most nations view themselves as nations because their people have a very long history, very long periods of occupying the same territory, long associations with a particular religion, common customs that go back often for many centuries. That becomes the cultural glue in many nations -– but America never had that. For Americans, our cultural basis is not that we’re born into a particular culture that’s many centuries old.
   Here, you can become an American. You’re not born into a culture like –- say, you’re French because you’re born there and have inherited this long cultural history. We say that people can become Americans.
   DAVID: That’s a powerful realization –- and, when we think about it, we know this about our culture, right? We actually celebrate it. But it sets us apart.
   WAYNE: This idea really isn’t true in a lot of other nations. Being American is an ideological commitment.
   The cultural foundation of America is a set of values that function in ways that are different than almost any other nation we can think of.
   DAVID: So, what are some of these core values that are part of this cultural foundation?
   WAYNE: One of them is patriotism, or national pride. Americans are unusual in the world in how patriotic we are. For example, there was a survey done of patriotism in 22 countries worldwide and Americans were right at the top in being the most patriotic. And we see this in the World Values Surveys as well.
   It may not always be the most patriotic in the world –- but it’s always right up there at the top as one of the most patriotic societies in the world. By and large, a lot of Americans are proud to be American and are proud of America’s accomplishments –- even as they acknowledge our shortcomings and failures as well.

   DAVID: Journalists, over the years, have often heard people express attitudes that are pretty close to: Love my country; hate my government at the moment. So, talk a little more about this value.
   WAYNE: Every nation-state has a problem of both legitimacy and integration. So we have about 300 million people living here in America. How could that large a number of those people feel they have anything in common with other people? Well, one way they feel that they share something in common is that they feel that we share this sense of “being an American.”
   When people talk about themselves and the country, they talk about being an American as something distinctively different, let’s say, than being Canadian or being French or being Chinese. It’s a sense we have of belonging to an imagined community. We envision that we do have something in common -– that we hold values in common –- and one of those important values is this feeling of pride in being American. That’s the cultural part we feel we share.
   DAVID: Then, there’s the government, the state -– and that’s something different than this vision of our shared American culture, right?
   WAYNE: Yes. There’s this governmental and legal apparatus -– this part of America that’s the state that governs. And this is another way that American values are really unusual in the world: Americans tend to be anti-establishment. Compared with much of the world, we prefer limited government. Now, there’s variation in that. But the debates in this country between liberals and conservatives about big government and limited government are talking about a range of government that –- compared to much of the world –- is still a small government.
   Look at the nation-states in Europe, like Sweden where the government is a much, much bigger presence in people’s lives -– and the people in countries like Sweden accept the government as this much bigger presence. Americans are unusual in preferring limited government.
   That pride in being an American goes right along with that skepticism about government and that desire for limited government.

   DAVID: So, we are distinctive around patriotism. We’re distinctive on how we see our government’s role. Give us another top-line value.
   WAYNE: Another is religion. It’s very interesting when you look at other lists of American values that people have made over the years. Lots of people have tried to do this and they’ve come up with long lists of our values –- and short lists, too. I’ve always been surprised that religion is rarely on those lists, when it seems clear to me that religion is a dominant American value.
   For example, if you ask Americans: How important is God in your life on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most important? When you ask that, you’ll get 85 percent of Americans saying: 7-8-9-10. More than half of Americans will say: 10.
   It’s completely the opposite in Europe where many people will say: 1. One exception would be Ireland, as an example of a place with very high levels of belief in God. But generally, in many places in Europe, you’d find far more people than in America putting the importance of God or religion at 1 or 2.
   DAVID: This surprises a lot of Americans, because we hear so many people decrying what they perceive to be the fading of faith in our country. We often hear this from conservative religious leaders -– but we hear it, too, from mainline leaders, as well. And yet the data –- in your study that went into your book as well as in Gallup data or Pew data –- show a very strong level of religious involvement here in the U.S.
   WAYNE: Yes. Religious attendance here is still at very high levels, especially compared with Europe.
   The fact is that religion is a much more personal matter here. In much of Europe, churches are state sponsored or they are linked to the state in some way. In contrast, churches in America are very democratic. This idea of democracy in religion goes beyond the organization of our churches. It also reflects the way Americans think about which churches they will attend. How do people talk about choosing a church? They’ll says: I don’t like this church, so I’ll just go join another church. That idea is pretty unusual around the world.
   Now, there are a lot of disagreements between Americans about how we should express our faith –- but Americans tend to be united, and unusually so in the world, in very strong beliefs in the importance of God.

   DAVID: You’re saying that our disagreements about religion have more to do with our flavors of faith, we might say. Or how we express what we believe in our faith.
   WAYNE: Yes, the debate mainly is about flavors of faith and how we express our faith.
   DAVID: Ever since your book was published and I reported on your research work, at that time for the Detroit Free Press, I’ve been amazed at your findings in this area. So many people perceive us, as Americans, as so deeply divided –- when, in fact, there’s so much we share as common ground.
   WAYNE: There’s actually a constellation of values that we share: the God-country-family constellation of values.
   And, again, that sounds like I’m talking about a conservative set of values that we associate with conservative political viewpoints, but that isn’t necessarily so. You can be very patriotic, you can have a very strong religious faith as so many Americans do, and you can believe in the importance of the nuclear family -– and yet you could also be extremely tolerant and even celebrate a lot of other cultural choices people are making. In other words, you could be making your own very strong choices about these values of God, country and family –- and yet you also can celebrate and welcome diversity, as well.

   DAVID: It’s got to be very challenging to sort out such a complex chemistry of values.
   WAYNE: It is. This is very difficult for researchers. Here’s an example: We are working on developing a list of possible questions we can ask Americans about values. So, we went back and made a careful review of more than 130 different questionnaires people have used over the years to study values — and we’ve culled from that about 200 potential questions that we could ask.
   One thing that surprises me is that there are questions I think we should be asking Americans about values that have never been asked on any of the 130 questionnaires. This work I’m doing right now will help us evaluate the kinds of questions we should use.
   So, people really will be helping us when they visit the site and add their comments, take the surveys and so on. They’ll be making a difference.

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